Today we're kicking off the #GNU Assembly!
This is a new umbrella for GNU people seeking transparent decision-making and built around consensus. It's the result of a decade of struggle to make #GNU inclusive, transparent, and community-driven.
#GNU contributors: consider joining!
#FreeSoftware activists: help us spread the word!
I sometimes feel that a decade (or more¹!) was lost in internal discussions that had little effect, and during which “outsiders” would think GNU = FSF = RMS.
But I’m happy we’re now looking forward and contributing to the future of #freesoftware. A real milestone!
@civodul Would be nice to elaborate the relationship of the gnu assembly with the gnu project somewhere on the website. For now its not that clear and it looks like a fork of gnu project.
@w96k @civodul FWIW this is the link posted to #guix freenode channel in response to the question about the fork: https://firstname.lastname@example.org/message/RASDB353K5ONC654JDXBQCE7PFADYBSX/
@civodul Thank you for taking that initiative! This is a courageous decision :).
I’m a long term GNU enthusiast but sadly not really a contributor, since I don’t know how to code. I always to get more involved with the project thought, and I think I will take that as an opportunity ^_^.
@civodul now that is serendipity timeing.
This looks like a tech/process based attempt at grassroots governance. Must say straight out, in my expirence, I have seen many process lead models like this, and they have NEVER worked.
Though it is always a good thing to try iteration. And good to contrast this to the humane/serendipity based aproch that we have been working on at the #omn
I like it.
@civodul I strongly disagree with this decision. If you're unhappy with the way GNU is governed, you should be trying to reform GNU from within.
Forking GNU is not the answer.
I want everyone to know:
https://gnu.tools/ is not the GNU project, and some of the people in it were on that list opposing RMS recently.
We need unity within GNU. I *urge* everyone not to join in on gnu.tools, it is a mutiny and a coup. We all need to show the *real* GNU project on gnu.org our full support!
@libreleah @civodul changing an organization from within is the way to go when there's a chance that it may actually work; this cannot happen with the FSF as roughly 95% of its members are white cis males, and we've seen in the recent times that a majority of them are strong opponents of inclusivity.
This initiative will not split the community; it is already split. It can only weaken Stallman's power on free software development, something I find hugely positive.
Don't give me that "cis white male" nonsense. And I talk to a lot of those people, they accept me just fine.
@libreleah @rbd @civodul Leah, you seem to prefer authoritarian, top-down rule. I assume this is why you removed, again, everyone's access from Libreboot without asking them. When you see people organising themselves, you call it a coup.
All we're doing is going our own way. We have no obligation or duty to obey the equations RMS = FSF = GNU. His leadership has been bad and has weakened the other two parts of that proposed equation. GNU was already fragmented. We're just making it official.
i see nothing wrong with rms's leadership
my concern is they will actually create real infrastructure, with development done outside of gnu.org
so then you have 2 gnu projects, and a completely splintered community. to my mind, this can only hurt the free software movement.
think: distros that have to integrate everything. which side do they choose?
PS: and all i did in lb is chuck out 2 bad devs who were leading the project in a bad direction
@libreleah @JordiGH @rbd @civodul that isn't where open source is better than proprietary software. It's not supposed to be centralized development, a bunch of people in a faceless building who make software.
Its people! People who speak dofferent languages, people who have different beliefs, people who come in and discuss software decisions. By the fsf bringing back stallman literally without asking anyone, it goes directly in the face of free software.
He’s a weird dude for sure. The guy is extreme: doesn’t buy AmTrak tickets because they require a credit card and doesn’t support Gentoo because it make it too easy to install non-free software 🙄
…but it is that crazy autistic extreme stance on privacy and open source that has been the bulwark of actual freedom in technology. I could never be Stallman because I do like the convenience of a credit/debt card, but I understand his hard stance and even see it as necessary.
As far as things he said, some has been misrepresented and some is truly stupid. But the tenants of cancel culture means there is no apology great enough; that grace and redemption are part of judeo-christian mysticism that has no place in the ridged legality of anti-perceived-intolerantism.
and some more links of the other side of this argument:
@icedquinn @thor @civodul @libreleah @mangeurdenuage @rbd Yea I’ve heard he’s a terrible house guest too; a story I read a while back said he showed up for a week and it took months to get rid of him, but then there’s the other story I linked that said he’s delightful for a short visit. The sign on his door at MIT was a prank by someone else and his business card, while a little odd … just makes him seem lonely more than anything.
It’s just all anecdotes too. Who knows what’s even real and not any more. If RMS had just died of COVID, we’d probably just be honouring him.
“You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain” -Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight Rises
To be fair to the Jacksons, the two guys introduced zero new evidence and their family are only going off what they say. It could all be made up, but .. it’s also pretty compelling.
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